Re: The Kernel (fwd)

[Paul Anderson <paul@geeky1.ebtech.net>]

On Sat, 24 Jan 1998, Rick Jones wrote:

> 
> So you're saying there's no purpose in having the distro list because
> you take action while others talk?  You're just going to make what you
> think is right no matter what anyone on the list has to say about it?
> 
He needs people to test it - we need something that works to build on.  A
house needs a foundation, you can't make it levitate.  He's doing work,
are you?  I am.  AFAIK, Omega is.  So is arma.  So is fluffy.  Ask him to
share his sources with you, edit them.  

> 
> Have you ever been involved in developing software, George?
> 
I would guess he has.  He apparently knows C, and how to hack makefiles.
Do you?

> You don't seem to have a clue as to what these (seul-dev-) lists are
> for.  These aren't "users lists".
> 
No, they're not.  seul-dev-distrib...  Hmm, I wonder what the dev could
mean...

> 
> This is what you don't seem to be comprehending.  We HAVE ALL of these
> things all over the damned net. 
>
This is not the proper forum for swearing, nor flamebait.

> All we need to do is set down a
> structure, get the software and modify it to our structure concept.  You
> are taking off on your own to put together SEUL when you have no clue
> what SEUL is going to be, because we are busy hashing it out.
> 
And that, friends, is how vapourware is born!

> You should be gathering info, posting to the list concerning aspects of
> what you find, requesting comments/suggestions, making decissions based
> on the input from the list and recording it.
>
Have you installed Debian?  Tell us what you don't like about the install!
Maybe even submit some code.  I would, but I've got to work on the
website.  Maybe you can help me out and do some work on the webpage?


> 
> What is your problem? 
>
Well, it's little pain in the neck called reality...

> I have asked you to post your agenda/outline so
> we can all get involved in it and get it done and you still sidestep
> it. 
>
You work for the government, don't you?

> You decide what the priorities are but let us know so we can
> attempt to give you pertainant feedback.  This is not a one man show
> here.
> 
No, it isn't.  Yet, you haven't posted a patch yet.  George's carrying his
end of the stick, care to pitch in somewhere?

> Every time you post "what you are doing" and people respond with
> suggestions you find a way to shrug them off. 
>
Only so much can be done until we have an installing dist(and I stress to
George that it be small enough to FTP a tarfile of it, under 10Megs,
whether I buy a copy of Debian or not depends on whether I win the auction
on that Super-8 movie camera I never should have bid on...)

> You were working on a
> boot disk.  You got input concerning the boot process and argued against
> the suggestion until finally saying that you're doing it the way it is
> already done period, and that there are "larger issues" to work on at
> this time.  If there were/are larger issues to work on, why were you
> working on the damned boot disk that you didn't want to listen to
> suggestions for?
> 
Whoops, there's that swearword again...  The english language has over
100,000 words: Use a different one.  I'll have to dig through the archives
to find that suggestion, what was the subject of the e-mail?(I have to
skim through the long messages, so I might've missed it)  I'll d/l
George's boot image and dd it to a floppy, and see what I can do.

> I ask you again.  For the third time.  Post an outline/agenda of what
> you are planning to do sio we can "HELP" you decide,research, modify,
> and package it.
> 
He's planning to make a distribution.  Like I said, every house has a
foundation, and that's what we're doing right now.  TTYL!


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