Re: SEUL: Text Editor neded

[Kevin Forge <forgeltd@pop.netaddress.usa.net>]

David Freeman wrote:
> 
> Oops, sorry about that, forgot to send it to seul-project, too.
> 
I was the only one inconvenienced.  Therefor it's not a problem
>
> Most users of SEUL won't even know how to use EDIT.COM.  They know how
> to use Notepad and Wordpad.
>
I have evidence to the contrary.  This has happened 3 times ( exact
scenario )
User downloads Macafee AV 95 and installs it only his system.  System
reboots
and hangs in the autoexec.bat,
User calls me in desperation and I explain over the phone.
1 : reboot the machine and keep hitting F8 as soon as it shows "the grid 
    with numbers and words in the top 1/2 of your screen"
2 : you will get a menu of choices.  choose the last one "safe mode
    command prompt only"
3 : press enter and wait a while, when you see the 'C:\_' just type in
    edit.autoexec.bat
4 : Look for the line that has "macafee" in it ( this is the hard part,
and
    takes the longest )
5 : put the word REM at the beginning of that line then save and exit.
6 : reboot the machine and I'll be there to "finish fixing it" in a few
    hours.
All this without telling the user how edit.com works.     
>
> We need a good clone of WordPad.  A current example of this is Nedit.
> Unfortunately, Nedit is not under the GPL.  However, Kedit is a good
> example of a Notepad replacement.
> 
> Singel-letter access to menus should be defined by SEUL widget set (GTK,
> etc.), not the application itself.
> 
> Kevin Forge wrote:
> >
> > "Intuitive, Software" ; Noun, any program the user already knows how to use.
> > A Major hurdle for me when migrating to Linux was figuring out which text
> > editor to use ... I found vi intimidating and joe while much better was a whole
> > new interface.  My suggestion ... Give the users a Text editor they already 
> >know.
> > i.e... A clone of EDIT.COM,  The chances of getting computer illiterates to even
> > try Linux ( as a first OS ) are quite slim.  However everyone who has ever used
> > Any of the none unix OSs will already know how to use edit, since it's interface
> > is shared by Word Perfect,  MsWord and a zillion other apps.  Powerful features
> > and keystroke combos for all the odd formatting tasks programers use are
> > not necessary ( Nothing more fancy than search and replace ), and defiantly a
> > single key drop down menu ( Map it to alt by default but allow mapping to other
> > keys ).  It doesn't mater if it runs properly on a terminal, SEUL is for the
> > home or office user who will be running X on her own PC anyway.
> 
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