Re: SEUL: Text Editor neded

[Jeffrey <jeffj@micoks.net>]

The only bad thing about edit is that if the mouse isn't working for
some
reason then many people don't know to use the alt key. The display
in ae and pico are a little more obvious and my mother seems to have 
had less problem with pico then she does now with IE for her email.
I'm sure she could figure out any of these easy to use editors we are
discussing.

Another thing I've seen is that many people don't know that ^ means ctrl
which I have heard called the "central key".
My concern right now is that the key bindings displayed in ae's menu
will not
be the same for all terminals.

Someone mentioned a bug in ae earlier. Is it fixable?

I tell people to use edit in dos all the time while doing telephone
tech support. Truth is notepad is just edit in a window. They are both
easy
to use because they are both very similar.

                                             -Jeff

Kevin Forge wrote:
> 
> David Freeman wrote:
> >
> > Oops, sorry about that, forgot to send it to seul-project, too.
> >
> I was the only one inconvenienced.  Therefor it's not a problem
> >
> > Most users of SEUL won't even know how to use EDIT.COM.  They know how
> > to use Notepad and Wordpad.
> >
> I have evidence to the contrary.  This has happened 3 times ( exact
> scenario )
> User downloads Macafee AV 95 and installs it only his system.  System
> reboots
> and hangs in the autoexec.bat,
> User calls me in desperation and I explain over the phone.
> 1 : reboot the machine and keep hitting F8 as soon as it shows "the grid
>     with numbers and words in the top 1/2 of your screen"
> 2 : you will get a menu of choices.  choose the last one "safe mode
>     command prompt only"
> 3 : press enter and wait a while, when you see the 'C:\_' just type in
>     edit.autoexec.bat
> 4 : Look for the line that has "macafee" in it ( this is the hard part,
> and
>     takes the longest )
> 5 : put the word REM at the beginning of that line then save and exit.
> 6 : reboot the machine and I'll be there to "finish fixing it" in a few
>     hours.
> All this without telling the user how edit.com works.
> >
> > We need a good clone of WordPad.  A current example of this is Nedit.
> > Unfortunately, Nedit is not under the GPL.  However, Kedit is a good
> > example of a Notepad replacement.
> >
> > Singel-letter access to menus should be defined by SEUL widget set (GTK,
> > etc.), not the application itself.
> >
> > Kevin Forge wrote:
> > >
> > > "Intuitive, Software" ; Noun, any program the user already knows how to use.
> > > A Major hurdle for me when migrating to Linux was figuring out which text
> > > editor to use ... I found vi intimidating and joe while much better was a whole
> > > new interface.  My suggestion ... Give the users a Text editor they already
> > >know.
> > > i.e... A clone of EDIT.COM,  The chances of getting computer illiterates to even
> > > try Linux ( as a first OS ) are quite slim.  However everyone who has ever used
> > > Any of the none unix OSs will already know how to use edit, since it's interface
> > > is shared by Word Perfect,  MsWord and a zillion other apps.  Powerful features
> > > and keystroke combos for all the odd formatting tasks programers use are
> > > not necessary ( Nothing more fancy than search and replace ), and defiantly a
> > > single key drop down menu ( Map it to alt by default but allow mapping to other
> > > keys ).  It doesn't mater if it runs properly on a terminal, SEUL is for the
> > > home or office user who will be running X on her own PC anyway.
> >
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