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Re: gEDA-user: terminators



2 thoughts,

tune down your edge rate in the FPGA to make the effective bandwidth  
of your edges lower.
square waves are an infinite series of sine waves, trapezoidal are  
finite.  ( roughly speaking )
3 inches is a 1/8th wave antenna for 500MHz,  again roughly ( 1GHz ~=  
12 inches ~=1 nS at the speed of light. )
if you worried about signal integrity, ignore the logic analyzer  
hookup,  use some diff probes.



as for the terminators, look at the xilinx demo boards, and their  
drive strength settings.
look how closely they matched the clock and data lines lengths.

good luck.


On Apr 4, 2009, at 12:29 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:

>
> I'm getting close to a final design for my SDRAM board, but I'm
> thinking about termination for the SDRAM signals.  This board is
> faster than anything else I've done before (133MHz 3.3v).
>
> Updated images here: http://www.delorie.com/electronics/sdram/
>
> The left half of the board (U2 left, U1) runs at 24 MHz, no problem.
>
> The right half of U2, and U2, run at 133MHz.  The longest trace is the
> CLK line, at just over 3 inches, the shortest is just under an inch.
> However, most of those lines are brought out to logic analyzer
> connectors, which may add up to another 1.8 inches (DQ11, for example,
> has a combined length of 3.9 inches).
>
> I'm thinking I have enough space to put in some series terminator
> packs (8x 0402 SMT) but where and how big?  Is it relative to which
> chip is driving the trace?  Should the logic analyzer go on the fast
> side or the slow side, or does it matter?  (it's a 500Ms/s analyzer)
>
>
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