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Re: gEDA-user: KJWaves - new release (a r)



On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 10:56 -0600, John Griessen wrote:
> A way to summarize and deal with the wants of anonymous a r,
> 
> is to create to setups of gEDA tools and distribute that way...
> perhaps with suffixes on binary package names...
> 
> And yes, there's a little organizing and tidying of libraries as already planned
> that we all want.
> 
> The responsive UI with retained modes is one that's hard to argue against,
> so that is one thing to add that is beyond tool setup and packaging
> for "hit-the-ground-running" speed.

I know I said I'd leave this thread.. but am I missing something about
the meaning people are associating with "retained mode UI"?

"a r"'s comment:

- responsive UI (retained-mode canvas etc),

Did seem a little odd to me. We have a canvas (ok, we don't call it
that, but it is). And by definition, the rendering model of a canvas is
retained. You put objects on it, they stay. (As opposed to a painting
API where we draw things continuously, and have to repaint when windows
cover regions and then become exposed again.

The latter is how X11 / GTK works, and in essence gschem implements a
retained canvas on top of it. There are some bugs of course.. the
occasional dropped cue or grip handle which would be VERY good to fix
for a professional look.


Did you perhaps mean to save the current session of open files etc.. on
exit?

(Like programs like ISE webpack and perhaps other tools use?). Spookily,
Peter B was suggesting this to me on IRC the other day, and we dug out
some protocol specs for the X11 session management. It might happen.


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Peter Clifton

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