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Re: [tor-talk] [OT] Smartphone purchase advice?


I also need some advice on a low-cost privacy-focused Android phone

Here are my requirements:

1. Low-cost android phone (as low as possible)

2. Should support privacy-focused OS (such as LineageOS or else)

3. Support for USB OTG

4. Support basic apps such as to do list, call recorder, etc (via F-droid or else but not Google Play store)

5. Front and back camera

6. Have mobile hotspot feature

7. Should support feature of quick decline messages for calls

After searching, I found Moto G4 Play (it is around 108$) which satisfies the above requirements.

Any other advice for the above requirements?

Even a refurbished phone with some warranty is also acceptable. Thanks!

---- On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 12:05:15 -0700 grarpamp <grarpamp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote ----

> Secure laptop advice? / Smartphone purchase advice ?

Obviously buy only unlocked carrier independant phones

cash upfront no financing, fuck the carriers. Bonus is they

won't come preloaded with carrier blingware, only

manufacturer blingware.

Most of the manufacturer warez can be avoided with...



You can also customise, compile and emulate test

Android OS. Strip out the entire Google app suite,

search, play, tunes, all the useless apps, spy, network

and battery eaters, background daemons, all gone.

Set your own security defaults in ROM, etc...



GPS chip / antenna / pwb traces can be physically

disabled, same for camera, microphone.

Learn on freebie recycled phones before hacking

on your Librem, Purisim, or whatever.

Still doesn't solve the baseband HW backdoor issue.

For that today you'd need VOIP number provider via

WiFi via cellular hotspot, or an OpenBTS etc SDR setup.

Intel is a top secret behemoth, so AMD should be preferred

by default just for competition sake while #OpenHW rolls.

There's somewhat more open Power9 platforms...


Plus all the ARM and random *boards HW out there,

most of which isn't truly open.

At least don't buy WinTel systems.

Today you can also easily startup and adopt...

#OpenFabs , #OpenHW , #OpenSW , #OpenDev , #OpenBiz , #OpenAudits , etc


So far it seems no one's minds are deprogrammed

redpilled and free enough to actually imagine and

come together to initiate that FTW, so all we still see

for decades is same dumbass questions...

- What untrusted CPU / Laptop / Phone / Gear to buy?

- Give me Fiat

Which is nothing more than kissing your master's ass.

They love that.

The first to market with verifiable trustworthy #OpenHW

made in #OpenFabs will make immense profits from sectors

that need that assurance.


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