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Re: Time Warner bad / VPS recommendations

----- Original Message ----

> From: Matthew McCabe <mateo07@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: or-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 4:44:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Time Warner bad / VPS recommendations
> I take issue with the premise that the only course of action that ISPs have is 
> to disconnect customers that generate these complaints.  I know that some ISPs 
> simply pass on the complaints to their customers with the expectation that the 
> customer fix the problem.  It seems to me that this is all the ISP is required 
> to do (see the EFF DMCA response letter for details).

The telecoms are acting in bad faith. They knew you were running a Tor node shortly after you fired it up. Then they starting looking for reasons to shut you down.

Time Warner has gargantuan media interests. They despise the idea of online anonymity. They said that trolling a message board is hacking. Would they make that claim of a user who trolled out in the open? Of course the answer is no. The thing they cannot stomach is DMCA requests being routinely ignored. For this they will shut down Tor nodes one by one.

In fact, I would wager that those who monitor P2P networks looking for file sharers concentrate on IP addresses on the Tor exit node list.

> tor-operator@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > 
> > Right.  In terms of cost, I'm also considering the cost of our general
> > counsel fending off irritating cease-and-desist crap from various
> > rightsholders.  And the cost of having a support staffer be forced to
> > investigate a server because of a complaint from a third party.
> > 
> > In principle {RI,MP,whatever}AA complaints are handled the same as
> > Dos/DDoS/spam/UCE reports: we get too many implicating the same customer
> > and the customer gets booted.
> > 
> > 
> >