Re: [tor-talk] Digital IDs needed to end 'mob rule' online, says UK security minister Ben Wallace - Digital IDs should be brought in to end online anoymity that permits "mob rule" and lawlessness online, the securit

[Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx>]

In fact I would imagine given the content and staining and such it would
make it more sure that He wants to do it.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:21 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Well I just want to bring up that should it be the end Yahweh may want to
> use anonymity to not reveal Himself to the masses.
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:19 AM grarpamp <grarpamp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Ben Tasker <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/online-digital-identification-mob-rule-online-security-minister-ben-wallace-a8390841.html
>>
>> > As I see it, there are two complimentary ways to fight it
>> .
>> > Firstly, explain (again) why it's a stupid and flawed idea.
>>
>> History shows that method always loses long term.
>>
>> > Second, keep building and supporting systems that help protect privacy
>> and
>> > anonymity online. That means running more tor relays as well as
>> developing
>> > new privacy friendly services etc. Essentially, make sure there are
>> > alternatives that cannot be affected by whatever half-baked
>> implementation
>> > they try to foist on us.
>>
>> Tools themselves will not stop the continual foisting that always wins
>> long term.
>>
>> Note this UK US scam has been spooling up for a wider G7 drop for a while
>> now...
>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-May/037851.html
>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-March/036940.html
>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-May/037948.html
>>
>> The subject problem is that government is now redundant to your own better
>> capabilities as human beings, now evolved and connected to the wealth of
>> instant global knowledge and comms. There's no longer a need for such a
>> central store of knowledge, action, and programming that, among other
>> things,
>> says that murder and theft are good, since now you can go online and see
>> that it is plainly bad, and contribute to better together, directly.
>> The solution is thus to go further this time and finally discontinue
>> that old redundant system.
>>
>> That connectedness is a "mob rule" they speak of... more properly a
>> "decentralized" mode, with voluntarist, anarchist, libertarian
>> flavors, coordinated
>> under realtime feedback for good... an unexpected result (to their
>> geriatric
>> selves and their decades expired models and thinking) of the true power
>> of the Internet now arrived... a curiously interesting process taking
>> shape
>> globally... a discussion.. an exploration of alternative models, of local
>> and self governance, an elimination of redundancy and inefficiency,
>> reclamation and redeployment of all things ceded.
>>
>> So of course they want to "Digital ID" that, to censor it, balkanize,
>> shape,
>> track, control, criminalize, and shut it down.... before they themselves
>> are.
>>
>> The fact that they've resorted to deploying worldwide surveillance,
>> the Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse FUD and more, spinning
>> it out 24x365 nonstop now in survival mode, shows they know their
>> own end is coming.
>>
>> Make, keep and use tools... "systems that help protect privacy and
>> anonymity online... develop new privacy friendly services etc"...
>> not just to hide and shield from the foisting, but to fix and learn
>> new thinking, thus ending it for good.
>>
>> The math is simpler than crypto...
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVEzdh4PMDI
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