Re: Using Tor at an on-line advocacy org

[Andrew Del Vecchio <firefox-gen@xxxxxxxxxx>]

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It's been working OK until now... Perhaps the sig was malformed? Also,
what keyserver are you checking with? My key isn't supposed to expire
until 8/28/08, and no one else uses this box. Sometimes I wish PGP
could have more specific error messages than just "bad"... :\.

Thanks,
Andrew

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On 03/21/2007 03:22 AM, Dan Collins wrote:
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> Andrew Del Vecchio wrote:
>> Thanks for the insights so far. I have done some documentation work on
>> the wiki, but I've run out of things to write. What are the areas most
>> in need of documentation that is also NOT programming side, which I
>> don't know much about? I also support the project financially already.
>> Perhaps I can get some of our members to do so as well.
>>
>> We would be using Tor as a cover for a cluster of e-mail servers which
>> send constituent messages to Congress. Currently, we do this directly,
>> but we've had a few isolated "accidents" in the past that were not
>> explained, and seemed a bit like political censorship, though we can't
>> prove it due to the usual "plausible deniability" that politicians so
>> treasure.
>>
>> I agree that this whole thing may have negative consequences, but
>> would it be possible to configure Tor so that we had a separate node
>> network that was not connected to Tor, at least not as far as end
>> nodes go? This would shift and contain the blame to our participants
>> and not the entire community. Still, governments are famous for their
>> tendency toward collective punishment, so perhaps that wouldn't do
>> much anyway.
>>
>> Is there any other solution?
>>
>> ~Andrew
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>> Frivolous lawsuits. Unlawful government seizures. What's YOUR defense?
>> Protect your assets, keep what you earn, and generate more income at the
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/20/2007 07:05 PM, phobos@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:28:51PM -0700, firefox-gen@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> wrote 1.5K bytes in 40 lines about: : Anyway, we are testing the
>>> possibility of using Tor to help prevent : being blacklisted by
>>> Congressional IT bureaucrats. In conjunction with
>>> What would be blacklisted? Your current IPs and domains or Tor
>>> Servers? Circumventing blocks with Tor will only result in Tor
>>> being blocked. Angering Congress IT people doesn't seem smart.
>>> Perhaps the people with which you interact aren't scientists, but
>>> I'll assure you these people exist. Starting an arms race with
>>> them is a losing proposition. Chances are they can outspend you on
>>> solutions.
>>> : this, we'd like to encourage participants (at least donor :
>>> participants) to help out by running their own Tor exit nodes to :
>>> improve the anonymity and bandwidth capability of the network we've
>>> : all come to know and love. I'm all for doing this, but the
>>> question : is, how do we do this in a proper manner? My fear is
>>> that spreading : the word too much will get us in trouble
>>> eventually. Worst case
>>> "Yay Tor more nodes!" Helping create more Tor nodes is great.
>>> Doing so with a long-term commitment is better. Your choices
>>> really come down to funding your own projects or funding Tor to
>>> build these things (LiveCD, USB Stick, point-click-tor-exit node,
>>> tor exit node in a box if you will). There exist a few projects
>>> similar to these. Many of these are orphans.
>>> Alternatively, helping Tor better document and make it easier to
>>> create exit nodes is just as big of a help. Having easy to follow
>>> instructions and GUIs (such as Vidalia) go a long way towards more
>>> nodes.
>>> As for spreading the word, the horse is out of the barn and halfway
>>> across the country. Tor is not a secret. If you're looking to
>>> anger the IT dept for Congress, don't use Tor as the leverage.
>>> It's bad for Tor, and bad for you in the long run.
>>> These are my initial thoughts. I may have more later on.
>>> Thanks!
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