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Re: 20090101

On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 08:14:34PM +0100, Olaf Selke wrote:

> nothing will change for German tor operators due to this law. It defines
> how to store and how to hand over stored data to the authorities. Data
> not collected at all can't be stored, right?. But this law does not
> enforce tor operators to collect any data.

Oh, really? So ISPs, VoIP and mobile phone providers have nothing to fear,
right? Wonder why they've been whining, then. I wonder why I went demonstrating
for the first time in my life, in the freezing sleet, with a bad cold.
> If the tor application would offer connection logging, and if a German

It does. Not that this is relevant to the issue. Firewalls can log, too.

> tor operator would activate it, then this tor operator will have to

I know you said you consulted with a few lawyers, but this is an incredibly
bad advice. Let's deal with this after Karlsruhe okays it, and using quite
a few more lawyer specialists, a few months before 20090101.

I'm certainly not the first guy to cave in, but once there's a high
probability of winding up with a criminal record I'll stop running
Tor, and do something else instead.

> store this data for six months. Please read §113 the first sentence of
> this fucking law.

Don't waste your time. Let's see what Karlsruhe says first.
And since we're talking laws, look at GG Par. 20, Abs. 4.

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