Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

[Juan <juan.g71@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:07:43 -0500
"Derric Atzrott" <datzrott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> >>> obvious cointelpro:
> >>
> >> Could you please stop calling people that. Its rude.
> >
> > As rude as it may be, is it wise to keep people alert and on their
> > toes, rather than lolled into a false sense of 'perceived security'?
> > 
> > Think if you yourself had 'something important' to communicate with
> > the world, and you came here and everyone patted everyone else on
> > the back and agreed that a Tor HS would provide all you need and
> > implied that everyone on this list can be trusted - is how you'd
> > like to be treated?
> > 
> > I'd rather stay paranoid and safe.
> 
> Previous poster is clearly a government agent sent here to sow
> discontent and mistrust amongst Tor users leading to our eventual
> downfall. :P


	LMAO!!! Except Tor IS a government project. 

	And the 'tin foil hat' 'conspiracy theorists' (that's not rude
	and laughably stupid name calling by the way) have by far the
	best arguments.




> 
> Certainly not everyone on the list can be trusted, but it does
> sometimes feel as though people just toss around accusations
> haphazardly. And clearly there are also some major issues with Tor HS.
> 
> A certain amount of paranoia is healthy as well, especially given that
> all of us on this list are almost certainly targetted as the NSA at
> least already targets regular users of Tor,[0] so I imagine they
> would target those of us who make up the Tor community.
> 
> Still, I do think its rude to accuse someone of being a plant when
> there is no real evidence of it.  I'd argue it is counterproductive
> because people will ignore it, and then when you do want to call
> someone out it won't make it through to folks.
> 
> Perhaps it is that I am the only one bothered by it in which
> case I'll just have to deal with it.
> 
> Thank you,
> Derric Atzrott
> Illuminati
> 
> "All hail the new world order."
> 
> [0]: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-the-nsa-targets-tor-users
> 

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