Am Sonntag, 16. September 2007 02:19 schrieb Alexander W. Janssen: > On 9/16/07, Ringo Kamens <2600denver@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > If you set up a paypal account I would be willing to donate on a > > case-by-case basis (in this case, it would be to help with your > > legal fees). I think even if you don't need help with legal fees > > by receiving donations from all across the world it sends the > > message to German authorities that harassing and attacking tor > > node operators is not acceptable. Also, being able to mail in > > money would also be nice ; ) > > Well. There's an EFF Europe now and it has a coordinator, Erik > Josefsson, who's in cahrge with it. Maybe we should contact him and > let all the funds ran over the european EFF? > > Erik, you're listening? Is there any possiblity to create a legal > fund? > > (Problem is: At leat german organisations can't accept donations > tax-free from foreign countries. Also I'd like to see someone > official in charge rather than some person - like me, who is pretty > much unkown and not trustworthy when it comes to money.) I (a German) am particularly reluctant to use PayPal. Recently, c't (a German computer magazine) published a series of incidents which shattered my faith in PayPal completely. Further, PayPal informs the police willingly about movements at their end - also abroad. Even though I have an account with PayPal in Germany, US-police obviously could obtain information from PayPal about me. Besides, small submissions (like 1 US$) swallow high fees, that doesn't make much sense. I am currently into registering an association that was founded more than a hundred years ago - that is quite some work, but manageable. I find the thought to found an association quite intriguing, particularly for Germany, where the members of a registered association (eingetragener Verein) would be protected against legal prosecution. The association could act as contract partners with the ISPs, and as that run Tor nodes which are managed by its members. BTW, one such node has just been set up which is legally registered with an association in Germany and run by a previous Tor-node admin who has also been harassed by the police. But I don't think they will be setting up more nodes. Martin -- Dr. Martin Senftleben, Ph.D. (S.V.U.) http://www.drmartinus.de/ http://www.daskirchenjahr.de/
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