Re: [tor-relays] case law on for exit nodes

[Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven@xxxxxxxxxx>]

btw nanog is full of dusty nerds that are either no longer entitled to act 
on behalf of what used to be -their- companies or don't have the balls to 
do so, you can forget anything there that goes beyond the level of 
organizing a garage sale, let alone a revolution.


On Fri, 25 May 2012, grarpamp wrote:

> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Letter
>
> Further, judges are always available, including secret FISA ones.
> Go get it signed by a judge before trying to order people
> around with what amounts to a request on pretty letterhead.
>
> I'd be afraid of complying with anything NOT signed by a judge,
> as that could put ME at risk. Not that any ISP's reading this would
> stop being sheep and want to spend money to actually defend
> themselves, their customers, their laws, or country.
>
> Then there's the DMCA.... similar, notices end up shutting people
> up without court order. Puts the cost of that from the complainant
> to the the recipient, with staffing help desk ticketing systems, etc.
>
> Oops, way off topic.
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