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[school-core] Re: Your group needs a representative for Schoolforge
Hmm. I see what you're saying. I've read your three replies and .... I'm still
thinking.
When we started schoolforge we had some similar discussions. The thing is we
don't want to get into a situation where we're competing for dominance. That's
why schoolforge does not seek to subsume resources of others, but to promote
them. Sounds like that's what you're doing, too. We now have a good number more
than 100 international organizations involved. We don't control what they do,
but we try to keep each other informed. That's why belonging to the
schoolforge-disucss list is important for you and your members. Meanwhile, I
don't know what to say about your plans. I believe OFSET's leaders do not have a
problem belonging to schoolforge-disucuss, but OFSET doesn't belong to
Schoolforge. So, whatever you do, consider getting people to join the mailing
list. If you own their group, that's fine with us. My reasoning is that we're
all just trying to do something that works -- and not in the short term. We've
been at it a while, others longer than I, and we're still at it. That's rare.
I think we should try to find a way of supporting each other's efforts rather
than taking away from them. That's why I support Seul/edu which is the farthest
along/most experienced at what we're doing -- and _they_ support others nicely.
Let us know what you decide, but please understand that our requirements are
just practical, not competitive. The person who represents you need not be a
leader, just a representative -- a name. All mail can be forwarded to your group
if you like. I'll let others figure that out. Frankly, you can make it work for
you as you please. Just don't open our schoolforge-core to more than one person,
please. I hope you'll encourage your members to join the schoolforge-discuss[ion].
Please keep the communication lines open and I hope you will still fine a way to
join Schoolforge. I think you would bring a great deal of good energy to the
community. We could use that ;-).
Take care,
David
Quoting Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@cb1.com>:
> hi there david,
>
> i am in a quandry: i beg to .. to... inform? you that
> your requirements lead me to believe that
> you misunderstand the role of, and my role in, linux.edu.
>
> my time is very limited, such that i am at present "skimming".
>
> i would prefer that it not be a requirement that we have to
> subscribe to schoolforge-discuss.
>
> why? because we are inviting _others_ to participate in projects
> that can be found via linux.edu, and we cannot countenance
> subscribing _other people_ against their will to such projects.
>
> i realise that this is somewhat different from the individual
> projects on schoolforge.net.
>
> if i, personally, was doing... say.... a single individual project
> ... say...
>
> http://homelearning.linux.edu
>
> then i would have no hesitation whatsoever in accepting your
> kind invitation to join the mailing lists, and would place
> your logo prominently on the http://homelearning.linux.edu web page.
>
> but i am not: i am rapidly jumping from site to site collating
> information, and to be absolutely frank, i haven't the time
> as a very _very_ part-time volunteer to do full-time reading
> of even _one_ project's mailing lists on a full-time basis.
>
> i _will_ however be using google.com and other search engines
> to find references to other projects and groups, in order to make
> linux.edu of more use world-wide, and also to yourselves and
> to your members on schoolforge.
>
> and if my searches come up with references on the schoolforge
> mailing list archives, great!
>
> i _will_ be encouraging _other_ projects and other people to
> get to know about schoolforge: that is my role.
>
>
> basically i want to set this site up, kick-start it, and then
> leave it well alone.
>
> unless i _personally_ want to start up a project as an
> _individual_, not in my capacity as the administrator of
> linux.edu.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 06:52:00PM +0700, David Bucknell wrote:
> > Dear Kenneth and Linux.edu participants,
> >
> > Again, welcome to Schoolforge. I want to let you know that Schoolforge
> requires
> > that you choose a representative. It doesn't mean that everyone can't be
> > involved in the discussions. They take place on schoolforge-discuss anyway.
> Each
> > group has one vote, however, so you need one representative to cast it.
> > Otherwise, we'd have to know more math, ;-).
> >
> > Additionally, I see why you require approval for posting to core@linux.edu,
> but
> > by using it as your addresss, this means that anyone who posts to
> > schoolforge-discuss will get your pending approval notice and this isn't
> good:
> > sort of viral. So, please choose a single schoolforge-core member with an
> > individual address and then ask members to subscribe to
> schoolforge-disucuss.
> > That's what we did when my group at opensourceschools.org joined.
> >
> > In fact, fyi, we decided not to have our own mailing list about general
> issues
> > so that we would be better participants in schoolforge. However, we kept
> our own
> > lists for authors and issues special to our own projects.
> >
> > At any rate, please consider my requests and I'm cc-ing this to the
> voting
> > membership so that they can comment if they disagree with me.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > David
> > for the Schoolforge Membership
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