Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

["Sebastian G. <bastik.tor>" <bastik.tor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

16.06.2013 22:38, Moritz Bartl:
> On 16.06.2013 21:33, Sebastian G. <bastik.tor> wrote:
>>> It was decided that we have no resources to maintain our own Q&A, and
>>> that having a third-party Q&A is better than none. I disagree, but
>>> that's not the point.
>> I'm not sure what you disagree with.
>> That there are not enough resources?
>> That it is better to have some Q&A than none?
> 
> I don't think Tor should endorse any proprietary, commercial platforms.
> Especially when they force us into a specific mode of operation.
> 
> I would love to do user support more again, but I don't want to
> participate in this. In my eyes, commercial services like SE are not
> "better than nothing", they simply don't exist for me. I understand that
> this is a somewhat radical view, but I've come a long way and this Q&A
> discussion will not make me change.
> 
> I don't think Tor should endorse a service that pushes you towards
> logging in with Facebook or Google accounts. I don't think Tor should
> endorse services that don't manage to get SSL working properly across
> their sites.
> 
> I don't think Tor should endorse a platform that pushes people towards
> unified accounts across multiple sites. I understand that it is
> beneficial to share reputation (which is btw one of the most important
> areas of research), SE should at least make it possible to use different
> nicknames across its sites.
> 
> I don't think Tor should endorse a platform that logs IPs. Logging
> should always be minimal.
> 
> I don't think Tor should endorse a platform that we don't have an
> automated backup of should it go away or we decide to move somewhere
> else. There seems to be some limited manual export option, I have to
> admit I did not look into it to closely. We also cannot migrate
> users/reputation.
> 
> I've contacted the author of Askbot some months ago to ask if he was
> available for paid labor on Askbot. He is. We did not even try to
> contact him again to ask if he was willing to volunteer for Tor, now
> that it looks like there's no financial budget. We did not ask the
> community if someone was willing to properly package Askbot and its
> libraries. We did not reach out to ask if someone was willing to
> maintain it for us. We did not collect issues that would need to be
> fixed before we can use it.
> 
>> Call me naive, but the same people will answer the questions regardless
>> of the service that is used.
> 
> At least for me, that is not the case. I will not participate on Stack
> Exchange.
> 

I understand your points and your standpoint.

Your contributions to Tor and its community appear valuable to me, so
your voice is weighted higher than compared to a faceless, colorless user.

Best,
bastik
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