Re: [pygame] multimedia pygame

[Niki Spahiev <niki@vintech.bg>]

enrike wrote:

> hi again
>
> > > > > Regarding MAX/MSP and PD I must say they are quite nice tools, I 
> > > > > specially like PD since its free software. They are very nice 
> > > > > environments for prototyping audio but also visuals (thanks to 
> > > > > external libraries such as Jitter and GEM). They are visual 
> > > > > programmin environments and as such its quite difficult to create 
> > > > > big and complex proyects. But the students usually like it very 
> > > > > much and learn a lot by using them.
> > > >
> > > > You can also "drive" PD (and MAX/MSP) using pyOSC.
> > > > Actually it can be very interesting to implement part of the "patch" 
> > > > in python
> > > > using OSC to receive data from the PD patch and sending back some 
> > > > controls/events.
> > >
> > >
> > > this is exactly what i am doing!
> > > Actually we developed a simple API for the pyOSC implementation by 
> > > Daniel Holth so that students or people that dont understand (or 
> > > cannot be bothered) sockets and studff like that can use OSC in a 
> > > very simple way, we are planning to release it in a few days.
> > >
> > > We want create "controllers" for PD, Supercollider, MAX/MSP and other 
> > > programs that understand OSC.
> > >
> > > You can have a look at what we have been doing so far in.
> > > www.ixi-software.net/content/software.html
> > > Check out SpinOSC as this the direction we are planning to move from 
> > > now on.
> >
> >
> > I did an event driven OSC implementation in Python on top of Twisted a 
> > couple years ago for a performance piece at a new media festival.  Are 
> > you guys just polling?  I started working on a high level game 
> > development framework, currently on top of pygame, and I'm like 80% 
> > done with a Pygame Twisted reactor.  It uses the pygame clock and 
> > event sink, but does the select loop in a separate thread, which 
> > generates a pygame event and in turn iterates the reactor.  In the 
> > cases where pygame events aren't necessary (most of the stuff I've 
> > done doesn't require ultra-responsive user input), I've just used the 
> > Twisted reactor to iterate pygame 
> > (reactor.callLater(delayUntilNextFrame, self.nextFrame) sort of style).
>
>
>
> ok!. would it be possible to get the code? is it finished? We did a 
> simple version that keeps pulling for incomming messages. We are using 
> OSC really intensively in some of our experiments and I think we would 
> benefit a lot from a highly optimised implementation of python OSC.
>
>
>
> > > > > Very recently there is a tool being developed at the MIT called 
> > > > > Processing that allows to program in a simplified version of Java 
> > > > > to create visuals and also sound. In many senses its a bit like 
> > > > > pygame.
> > > >
> > > > Can you send/share some link about "Processing" in order to have a 
> > > > look at it?
> > >
> > >
> > > I think its someting like www.processing.net
> > > this was an old link to the demo but it might have changed
> > > http://proce55ing.net/download/alpha.html
> > >
> > > Looks like they plan to release open source in the future but not at 
> > > the moment.
> >
> >
> > It's been planned for a while, but never happened.  It is a bit like 
> > pygame, but it uses Java syntax and mostly OpenGL sort of semantics 
> > (though it is bitmap based).  Something written in 
> > pygame+Numeric+PyOpenGL could do the same thing, but probably be much 
> > nicer to use and more flexible.
>
>
> this is the kind of stuff I was refering to in my first email.
> i think if somebody puts together some package, or maybe some guidelines 
> to ease the complexity of getting into all these different libraries, 
> this would be great for many people. I was checking out PyOpenGL 
> recently and I had the feeling that this is great and very fast but also 
> that not being myself into 3D it was going to take me ages to be a ble 
> to use it properly for 2D. Pygame is much more related to what I am used 
> to, however still it lacks some things I (and many others i guess) would 
> need, like integrating into wxpython in my particular case.
You may want to check slithy

http://isotropic.org/uw/slithy/

very impresive python+opengl

Niki Spahiev