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Re: [tor-talk] Digital IDs needed to end 'mob rule' online, says UK security minister Ben Wallace - Digital IDs should be brought in to end online anoymity that permits "mob rule" and lawlessness online, the securit

It would be nice to see some bad journalists disappearing or elites. Who
want to blame israel.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 3:23 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Interesting the elites have a spear campaign going on against Israel
> Killing al-Najjar, who clearly posed no threat to its soldiers, made it
> difficult for Israel’s army to argue that its snipers targeted only
> “rioters” in Gaza and did not fire indiscriminately at peaceful protesters,
> journalists, and medics.
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 3:13 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> It is like they are saying they want the apocalypse without saying it by
>> really saying it (anonymous) that's their way of asking, and christians who
>> are good christians and israel says "yes come Lord"
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:28 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>> I mean for example historically the people of Canaan worshipped God but
>>> Canaan was cursed. And it was about the place of the Hittites and
>>> Canaanites who were slaughtered. But they worshipped the same God.
>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:23 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>> In fact I would imagine given the content and staining and such it
>>>> would make it more sure that He wants to do it.
>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:21 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Well I just want to bring up that should it be the end Yahweh may want
>>>>> to use anonymity to not reveal Himself to the masses.
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:19 AM grarpamp <grarpamp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Ben Tasker <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/online-digital-identification-mob-rule-online-security-minister-ben-wallace-a8390841.html
>>>>>> > As I see it, there are two complimentary ways to fight it
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> > Firstly, explain (again) why it's a stupid and flawed idea.
>>>>>> History shows that method always loses long term.
>>>>>> > Second, keep building and supporting systems that help protect
>>>>>> privacy and
>>>>>> > anonymity online. That means running more tor relays as well as
>>>>>> developing
>>>>>> > new privacy friendly services etc. Essentially, make sure there are
>>>>>> > alternatives that cannot be affected by whatever half-baked
>>>>>> implementation
>>>>>> > they try to foist on us.
>>>>>> Tools themselves will not stop the continual foisting that always wins
>>>>>> long term.
>>>>>> Note this UK US scam has been spooling up for a wider G7 drop for a
>>>>>> while now...
>>>>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-May/037851.html
>>>>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-March/036940.html
>>>>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-May/037948.html
>>>>>> The subject problem is that government is now redundant to your own
>>>>>> better
>>>>>> capabilities as human beings, now evolved and connected to the wealth
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> instant global knowledge and comms. There's no longer a need for such
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> central store of knowledge, action, and programming that, among other
>>>>>> things,
>>>>>> says that murder and theft are good, since now you can go online and
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> that it is plainly bad, and contribute to better together, directly.
>>>>>> The solution is thus to go further this time and finally discontinue
>>>>>> that old redundant system.
>>>>>> That connectedness is a "mob rule" they speak of... more properly a
>>>>>> "decentralized" mode, with voluntarist, anarchist, libertarian
>>>>>> flavors, coordinated
>>>>>> under realtime feedback for good... an unexpected result (to their
>>>>>> geriatric
>>>>>> selves and their decades expired models and thinking) of the true
>>>>>> power
>>>>>> of the Internet now arrived... a curiously interesting process taking
>>>>>> shape
>>>>>> globally... a discussion.. an exploration of alternative models, of
>>>>>> local
>>>>>> and self governance, an elimination of redundancy and inefficiency,
>>>>>> reclamation and redeployment of all things ceded.
>>>>>> So of course they want to "Digital ID" that, to censor it, balkanize,
>>>>>> shape,
>>>>>> track, control, criminalize, and shut it down.... before they
>>>>>> themselves are.
>>>>>> The fact that they've resorted to deploying worldwide surveillance,
>>>>>> the Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse FUD and more, spinning
>>>>>> it out 24x365 nonstop now in survival mode, shows they know their
>>>>>> own end is coming.
>>>>>> Make, keep and use tools... "systems that help protect privacy and
>>>>>> anonymity online... develop new privacy friendly services etc"...
>>>>>> not just to hide and shield from the foisting, but to fix and learn
>>>>>> new thinking, thus ending it for good.
>>>>>> The math is simpler than crypto...
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVEzdh4PMDI
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