Re: gEDA-user: merge multi symbol components

["David C. Kerber" <dkerber@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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> [mailto:geda-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Doty
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:48 PM
> To: gEDA user mailing list
> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: merge multi symbol components

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> >> But for usability, the issue is one of scripting at a 
> higher level. I 
> >> love the way gnetlist interoperates so well with make, but 
> users seem 
> >> increasingly impatient and helpless these days. Maybe a missing 
> >> ingredient is a Makefile creator.
> >
> > The problem I see is that there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of 
> > stuff around that requires Make
> 
> Billions of lines of code in various languages are turned 
> into executable code via processes that use make. This 
> includes gEDA and PCB. But make is a flexible tool for many 
> other processes, too.

I realize that, but not every process uses it; there are other tools and methods available to accomplish the same thing for most workflows.

 
> > (mainly C languages, and not in all of their environments), so many 
> > engineers aren't familiar with it.  That makes it another hurdle on 
> > the learning curve to their eda tools.
> 
> You want high productivity processes, you're going to have to 
> invest a little time learning the tools that multiply 
> productivity. 

Eclipse does that wonderfully; it has mature C development tools as well as Java.


> Make is a classic example of a very simple tool 
> that is a very effective productivity multiplier.
> 
> >   My programming is mostly done in java using Eclipse, so I 
> don't deal 
> > with Make at all.
> 
> Ugh. What you gonna do when you need a microcontroller 
> running the show?

Either farm the code development out to somebody who already knows how to do it, or (more likely) use one of the embedded versions of Java with lower resource requirements.  Or if I have lots of time to work with, learn it myself.  I thoroughly enjoy learning new ways of doing things, but don't always have the time to indulge myself in that way.

D


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