Re: gEDA-user: gschem with cairo rendering

[der Mouse <mouse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>> I don't know gEDA proper, but PCB is very far from "lowest common
>> denominator".  Indeed that's a substantial part of why I'm building
>> my own HID for it now: I neither have nor want GTK or Lesstif, so
>> I'm building a plain X HID.
> I presume you're ok with a partial requirement for M4 and some posix
> shell, which is common on UNIX, but is a real pain for the win32
> port.

Well...I'm okay with that in a pragmatic sense, since I do have m4 and
sh, but I'd consider those misfeatures (hard-to-fix misfeatures, maybe,
but that's a separate issue).  (Hmm, what does it need sh for?  I need
to have another look at the code....)

> Partly, but partly not.. there is no reason someone like yourself
> could not build cairo etc., if you wanted it.

Well, and if I were willing to accept the prices, which quite likely
would include an OS change and substantially beefier hardware at a
minimum.

> The main reason it wouldn't be viable would be if you were running on
> hardware which isn't fast enough to be usable with that level of
> graphics quality.

Which is likely true in my case.  I've done the rendering portion of
the HID first, and it takes it nearly a minute to render tut1.pcb.
It's likely I can speed that up some, but only some; I don't expect to
ever get it below, say, five seconds, on this hardware.

> Limited by hardware is what I meant by lowest common denominator.
> Avoiding things like GTK by choice is just that, your choice, and
> comes more under the m-r-c definition.

So l-c-d is hardware and m-r-c is software?

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